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Picking Pups
« Thread Started on Oct 28, 2009, 8:30am »
Gday all,

Was just wondering what people's thoughts were when it comes to selecting pups from a litter. What do people look for when pups are at such a young age (3 months).

Factors such as first born, size, outgoing nature, colour etc

Any comments appreciated

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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #1 on Oct 28, 2009, 8:57am »
I asked a breeder that sold most of his pups but always seemed to keep the best ones for himself what was the secret.His answer
I JUST KEEP THE ONES NOBODY ELSE WANTS.
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #2 on Oct 28, 2009, 9:45am »
Selecting pups is a bit of luck at 3 months old. Bigger pups look more appealing than their smaller litter mates but the thing I look for is attitude rather than size at this stage. Rearing is very important and should be a progressive learning curve for pups. The reason breeders seem to end up with "better pups" is they can often rear better than the average purchaser. Having said this there are countless examples of dogs that have been reared by different means that turn out top class - so in the end it is the inherited ability the particular pup has that will determine its destiny.
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #3 on Oct 28, 2009, 10:23am »

Oct 28, 2009, 8:57am, queenlee wrote:
I asked a breeder that sold most of his pups but always seemed to keep the best ones for himself what was the secret.His answer
I JUST KEEP THE ONES NOBODY ELSE WANTS.



Thats what we do, we just let everybody else take there pick & we keep whatever is left.

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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #4 on Oct 28, 2009, 10:52am »
queenlee that is the same as we do keep what nobody wants. if there was away to pick good dogs from litters then we would all have one. over the years i have seen all kinds of things poeple do to try and get there champ. i had a person once who brought there family pet with them. and we put 7 or 8 pups around him and the one he wanted to play with was the one they pick. it work for them a few years earlyer. so there you go just one of the funny ones lol. cheers mick
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #5 on Oct 28, 2009, 11:11am »
Look at their toes. They MUST have fast toes.
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #6 on Oct 28, 2009, 11:12am »
back in the 70's, i went with my parents to pick a greyhound pup.
i remember, the lady opened her front door to greet us and about 8 pups came barrelling down the hallway to the front door..
in the end, my parents chose the last one that made it to the front door..
this pup, ended up winning quite a few races including the city....
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #7 on Oct 28, 2009, 11:15am »
FAST toes???

Please explain...

Are their any conformities that you should look for to avoid?
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #8 on Oct 28, 2009, 11:19am »
Small heart and lungs?

I know its hard (impossible) when they are so young but you should be looking for athletic types. The best dogs I have seen are very athletic looking not body builder looking.

Just get them well reared!!!
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #9 on Oct 28, 2009, 11:22am »
Haha

Yeah mate, think I understand that your having a dig now...

Probably need the feet to be pointing forward eh...
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #10 on Oct 28, 2009, 11:41am »
My mate has a litter of pups and I keep telling him which one is going to be the best. To which he replied "How the F@#$ would you know?" And I told him the dog has FAST TOES so he will be the best. He just laughs at me but we will see.

Its only a personal thing but I would pick pups on their athletic looks and try to watch them run in a group in a yard and see which ones look dominant, agile and athletic.

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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #11 on Oct 28, 2009, 2:52pm »
I once had the choice of picking a pup when the litter was about 9mths old.I chose a very athletic dog who was clearly the most dominant in the litter.butter would not melt in his mouth when you patted him.but in the paddock with his litter different story.He broke in well and won his maiden well.this dog was in very good hands,low and behold near tore a dogs head of next start.copped 28days.sent to victoria 2starts later same again.talk about dissapointed.Gutted to be truthful.So from now on i will steer clear of the over dominant ones and also the quiet sooky one sittin in the corner and go for one thats a bit outgoing has a leggy appearance and shows interest when something like an old bit of rag is dragged along the fenceline.sure theirs plenty of methods thats just my opinion.
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #12 on Oct 28, 2009, 6:11pm »
We get them x-rayed. It's what's on the inside that counts.
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #13 on Oct 28, 2009, 7:05pm »
straight legs and toes, dogs with duck feet cant run. also keep clear of dogs with uneven legs that look like harley davidsons, you want the feet to be even length and as straight as possible
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #14 on Oct 28, 2009, 7:12pm »
i just say that one will do lol just me if i like the breeding ill try if u fined a breeder u trusted just tell them if u want a dog or bitch and tell them to keep u one as a lot of it is good luck
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #15 on Oct 28, 2009, 7:34pm »
I don't believe you can pick THE ONE, but i can remember hearing about a theory that involves measuring the dog up. I think it went something like:
the distance from the top of the shoulder blade to the elbow, should be the same as the length from the elbow to the top of the wrist, and that from the shoulder blade to the pin bones. There are several others.

To be honest i can't really remember how it went, i thought it was all bulls**t so i forgot it pretty quickly.
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #16 on Oct 28, 2009, 8:28pm »
When you whelp them down, watch them grow, I think you get an inside advantage as your with them all the time.
I like the one thats a good size, got a big back, not to out-spoken but when the fights are on, their the last one to stop.
Take them to the best rearer you can find. Nothing but the best of everything, including worming................Luddy.
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #17 on Oct 28, 2009, 11:12pm »
Does anyone do a Heart Score anymore ?
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #18 on Oct 30, 2009, 7:12pm »
ive seen some funny ideas over the years ,one bloke wouldnt buy a dog ,ears to close together no room for a brain ended up being a top city dog,another one was to put the tail back between the legs and if the tip couldnt reach the spine over the back no good
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #19 on Oct 30, 2009, 7:53pm »
Each to there own.
I like the big fat pups myself!! Or the ones that are good at getting there food at tea time and keeping it!!!

But in saying that. i only like brindle dogs and blue bitchs :)
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #20 on Oct 30, 2009, 8:21pm »
when i bought my pup i had the same problem, i wanted a bitch so we placed them all in the back corner of there shed and whoever was out first we would keep,

so good so far, broke in the quickest of the litter and is trialing very well.

will be at the track very soon.
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #21 on Nov 3, 2009, 12:25am »
If you don't know the breeder, then have a good look around the establishment prior to making your decision.

Have a good look around without being nosy.

If you're ther to have a look at 1 pup, ask to see others as well just incase they 'dolled' the pups up that you are there for.

If you spot a Banjo on the front porch - don't stop - keep going.

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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #22 on Nov 3, 2009, 12:42am »
If it stands out... get it.
Unless it stands out for the wrong reasons ie 3 legs lol.

My best dog was from litter of 5. 4 were mad for attention my girl terrified in a corner. Turned out to be a super dog, super mum and a super best mate,
I knwo other people have picked dogs that have bitten them ie Brother Knows

So if they stand out for watever reason... and you like the pup... get it.
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #23 on Nov 3, 2009, 11:02am »
we have 1 guy who has been coming here for almost 2 years & he buys 8 - 10 dogs per year, he just walks around & watches the pups (aged 3 months - 12 months) & says i will take that 1 & that 1, then he says i will be back in a couple of months to see what else i like.

He has an uncanny nack of picking the same pups that i like.

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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #24 on Nov 3, 2009, 2:52pm »
Dont matter which ones you pick as long as you rear them right. I just walked an 18mth pup whom has been through two breakers, we walked past a house with about 12 maybe 2 month old chickens on the footpath. The dog looked and looked away, now this same dog at 12 weeks wouldve had a ball with the lot of them. Another long raod ahead i see. Just pick what takes your fancy and rear them properly.
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« Reply #25 on Nov 3, 2009, 11:47pm »
pick the black one first the red fawn second
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Re: Picking Pups
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Oct 28, 2009, 2:52pm, tigers05 wrote:
I once had the choice of picking a pup when the litter was about 9mths old.I chose a very athletic dog who was clearly the most dominant in the litter.butter would not melt in his mouth when you patted him.but in the paddock with his litter different story.He broke in well and won his maiden well.this dog was in very good hands,low and behold near tore a dogs head of next start.copped 28days.sent to victoria 2starts later same again.talk about dissapointed.Gutted to be truthful.So from now on i will steer clear of the over dominant ones and also the quiet sooky one sittin in the corner and go for one thats a bit outgoing has a leggy appearance and shows interest when something like an old bit of rag is dragged along the fenceline.sure theirs plenty of methods thats just my opinion.


I bred a litter that had what the rearer described as the most evil animal he'd ever had on the property. He was one of two dogs I had left for sale and the buyer took the other one. I was actually happy as I wanted to keep him.

He won 15, 4 in town and held a track record. Never looked like turning his head.

I've still got him at home now, he's 9 years old and still a bit feisty in the yard :o

I normally pick the biggest at 3 months, theory being they have got the most from mum, strongest survive etc then throw in plenty of luck ::)
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Re: Picking Pups
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Archie Hamilton?
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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #28 on Nov 6, 2009, 11:10pm »

Nov 5, 2009, 8:33pm, Jackass wrote:
Archie Hamilton?


Right litter, wrong dog ;)

Roaring Silence was the dog, I picked Krakow out at 3 months to keep, Archie was sold at 3 months and I had two left, gave the other buyer the choice, the one he took was called Reggies Flyer, had ability but broken down early, Roaring Silence was the one remaining ;D

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Re: Picking Pups
« Reply #29 on Nov 6, 2009, 11:29pm »
from a litter of 6, in a 2 acre paddock, i was talked into buying the little brindle one, who wouldn't come up to the fence, because the breeders mum was a gypsy and had told her son , that was the one
her racing name was sparkling bubble
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